Michael Pinchbeck interviews Dr Kai Syng Tan, Senior Lecturer at the Department of Art & Performance, having joined Manchester Met University in September 2019. Kai is Programme leader for a new MA/MFA in Executive Arts Leadership. An artist, consultant, curator and academic, Kai is concerned with the body and mind in motion in a world in motion and commotion. She is best known for gathering diverse and divergent bodies and bodies of knowledge to engineer spaces of ‘productive antagonisms’ (Latham & Tan 2016) across disciplinary, geopolitical and cultural boundaries, in what she calls an ‘ill-disciplined’ approach (Tan & Asherson 2018).